Tibetans preserve their unique culture.
May 5, 2003
Zasep Rinpoche, Conrad Richter (Gaden Relief), Rob Standfield
(Gaden Choling), Sharon Gretzinger (Gaden for the West), Evan
Zaleschuk (Zadoh Committee), Ken Stones (Zadoh)
a) Rinpoche spoke to his niece in Tibet last night she said there
is no SARS in TAR or Qinghai province [where Zadoh is located]
b) No travel to Zadoh or Yushu
c) Dr Ledar at the Tibetan hospital says doctors can't take time
off in case of SARS problems.
d) Chinese have cancelled all travel until the end of May
e) Agenda affirmed as written and some items added
1. Insurance and when to postpone, update on what has to be
done so as not to jeopardize the insurance claim.
a) There would be a penalty for cancelling of $600 per person
so $1200 for Ken and Robbie (don't know about Candace at this
time) which the insurance would cover if there was a travel ban
at the intended time of travel. Conrad surmises that SARS will
still be a problem in July so insurance could cover this amount.
b) Health Canada is currently saying defer travel plans.
c) We have to make a decision to postpone for the sake of everyone.
*agreed by everyone [to postpone]
d) Rinpoche has cancelled his ticket with no penalty as he had
not paid yet.
e) Conrad and Ken will stay in touch with Sherri the travel agent
re collecting on the insurance for the ticket cost loss.
2. Tentative dates for 2004
a) Rinpoche would like to go in 2004 if it is safe.
b) 1st week in July is best, weather is good, easy to travel on
the roads, people are gathering.
c) June is not good, harvesting herbs so a lot of people are in
d) Ken would like to go for a month next year, if possible.
3. Message to donors, what tack to take for fundraising now
a) Matt King will do a Gaden Relief Newsletter
b) This will contain: clear descriptions of what we are doing
c) We need funds for Jamseng Health Care Centre and Tashi Lhapung
- a message that the trip this year is postponed
- a message from Rinpoche
- a message from Evan
- all re continuing to raise funds for the three projects in Zadoh,
d) Rinpoche has collected funds for sponsoring individuals
e) Jamseng Health Care Centre needs funds for:
- Building a shelter where people can stay while attending JHCC
- Building a wash room with running water and toilet facilities
- Getting water to the centre including: digging a trench, purchasing
and laying pipes, purchasing and putting in pumps, purchasing and
putting in solar panels, providing batteries for solar power storage.
f) We need
a budget from the committee re these needs
g) Rinpoche will call his brother and ask him to get the committee
together to write up a budget and send it to Rinpoche.
h) Tashi Lhapug Monastery needs funds for:
i) Rinpoche will find out how much they borrowed for the above purchases
- Restoring temple damage from earth quake.
- Building School of Philosophical Studies have purchased through
loaned money a truck full of cement five trucks full of timber
j) How we will raise the funds we need.
k) How to handle donations to Rinpoche's Travel Fund? Sharon will
announce the postponement of this years trip and say that we will
hold donations until next year, if anyone wants their money back
it will be returned upon request.
- Through the newsletter
- Ask each centre to fund raise with the help of the newsletter
and various projects such as Centre dinner, dance, silent auction
- Projects such as Mala of Rinpoche's sold on ebay (see article
by Evan in newsletter)
- Approach local groups for sponsorship ie Ken and Evan will
look into Rotary clubs in White Rock as Candace did in Duncan.
4. Drug acquisitions
All acquisitions have been postponed, no purchases have been made.
will re initiate in spring of 2004
5A. Informing Zadoh committee in Tibet
Rinpoche will call his brother in Tibet tonight
5B. what funding issues will Jamseng have if we postpone
a) We need salary for the Monk Doctor approximately $1,000 Can per
year who stays at JHCC going back to the monastery only for pujas.
Also salaries for the 4 people on the committee approximately $4,000.
Also need medicine for JHCC
b) They [the Zadoh committee in Tibet] could borrow some from the
bank until next year
c) Money cannot be sent to Yushu or Zadoh as the [bank] systems
do not function there.
d) Rinpoche will get a list of the expenditures thus far on medicine
which will let us know how much is needed for this year. Could be
e) It looks like they can survive and we would pay back the loaned
money approximately $9,000
6. May 21 meeting in Toronto -- still on?
a) Yes, both meetings, Rinpoche, Conrad, Candace, Robbie, Rob Stevens,
Sharon will meet with Nonita Yap in Guelph.
7A. Mini-conference idea for November when Cynthia Hunt will
be in Vancouver
a) Evan will look into the possibilities of this and including Seva
and Rokpa as well.
b) We will all think about this and keep talking about it on the
email Rinpoche thinks it is a good idea to have a conference in
the fall Conrad is considering coming out for this if it is possible
c) Rinpoche spoke about the concern about using western medicine.
He is not worried about it as we don't use much western medicine
and what we do use helps by relieving suffering, if it relieves
suffering for one day that is good. The idea is to help people.
He doesn't think using western medicine for one month makes people
dependant on it. People accept what is offered with gratitude. People
with money get drugs from Chinese drug store.
d) Conrad reminded us that in 2001 the cost of medicine was a very
small part of our expenditures which were mostly for the construction
of JHCC and that we wouldn't have spent money for the drugs on the
e) It was also mentioned that we did not leave western medicine
at JHCC what was not used by the doctor when he was there was given
to a doctor in Yushu who is familiar with western medicine and he
used theses drugs appropriately.
7B. Long and short terms goals of Zadoh projects.
a) It would be good to get together
b) Short term goals at this time re Jamseng Health Care Centre are:
- to make the centre more effective in meeting the health care needs
of the people of the community - to expand the services through
both Tibetan and Chinese medicine
c) Long term goals at this time are to: - make the centre self sustaining
through cottage industry which supports individuals and the centre
ie tanka painting, carpet making or other ventures involving community
d) Currently the committee needs to borrow a motorcycle to get to
JHCC, we could support buying a jeep which could be used for committee
transport to JHCC and as a taxi, could get a local person trained
in mechanical repairs then they could repair the jeep and make money
partly for the centre or ???????????
e) Re ethics of business - business is new to these nomadic people
they have been self sufficient using little money so they are just
waking up to the ways of business.
f) Could create a Guest House which locals could run display and
sell any cultural crafts and all could support JHCC
8. What should we do about applying for funding through U.S.
a) Long discussion about this. Need to know more
b) Sharon will call Brian and ask the following questions. I [Sharon]
spoke to Brian and his answers follow the questions. Brian had one
concern and that was that those offering these funds want Biographies
of all Americans working on the projects to be funded and as there
are no Americans working directly this could be a problem.
c) Brian has the impression from his reading that the Chinese have
been consulted about this funding and are in agreement.
- is the area of Zadoh covered by this funding offer? Ans: the
people this is to benefit are the Tibetan ethnic group living in
- would they fund small project of around $2000? Ans: yes he thinks
- How will the money be channelled? Ans: He doesn't know.
d) He will email me the web sites he found most helpful and i will
print the material for Rinpoche and email the rest of you the web
sites here is the web site which is linked to the application page
e) Brian will be talking to a representative of the program tomorrow
and will see if he can get the answers to questions 2 & 3 and will
email them to me and i will forward them to you .
f) Rinpoche asked Evan and Conrad to look into a program called
The Bridge which is said to give $$$'s to Tibet
g) Bill Wells will see if he can access any funds from Bill Gates
and his Wife who are said to have a foundation that might help in
good night to all time lapsed 1 hr 50 min
recorded by sharon gretzinger [edited by Conrad Richter]